Mewn iaith arall. Ond mae digon o bwyntiau dilys wedi eu gwneud.

I’ll echo the points that Huw Irranca-Davies was making, in particular, about making energy efficiency a matter of national infrastructure priority. What goes along with that, in a sense, is that sense of a national mission around the scale of the challenge, which he and others have identified.

We’ve outlined and talked already about the environmental benefits and, crucially, the impact on our objective of reducing fuel poverty. I want to just touch briefly on the other economic benefit, which some have mentioned, which is that of strengthening our local economies, which is one of the objectives that many of us in this Chamber share. Several speakers have touched on the issue of the foundational economy, which plays a part in our national economy, and retrofitting properties for energy efficiency seems to me to be an absolute exemplar of the kinds of sectors and activities that we’re looking at when we talk about that sort of economic activity, localised, with ongoing demand, able to support, as others have said, local employment in the Arbed scheme, which was a significant benefit of that programme. Indeed, of the 51 installation companies involved in the first phase, 41 of them operate exclusively in Wales. Of the 17 products that were used, only five of them were produced in Wales, which shows the scope of the opportunity there for increasing localised production of some of these products as well.

I want to talk briefly about the fact that, although this is a national imperative, we mustn’t lose sight of the community benefit that comes from energy efficiency. Some of the work that’s been done around community based retrofitting, which moves beyond residential accommodation and looks at business premises, transport infrastructure, green spaces and takes a much more holistic approach for energy efficiency—I think there’s a lot of value in that sort of approach. It has been trialled in some communities. The benefit of that is that you have the opportunity to engage both commercial and residential properties and interest and capacity, which, when we’re looking at different funding models for delivering this, is an important consideration. Also, it enables people to engage on a much larger scale, which carries a number of other benefits. So, I would urge the Welsh Government to reflect on that model. There have been good examples. There is a very famous example of it in Oxfordshire, where a co-operative-based model has delivered both community-based renewable generation and also used the funding from that to fund energy efficiency. It seems to me the linkage between creating a revenue stream through community-based renewables and then a means of paying for some of the measures that we’re discussing—that link seems to be an absolutely fundamental part of providing a range of sustainable models for achieving the objectives that this motion sets out.

I just want to touch briefly on that range of sources of funding. We need to look at—the scale of the challenge is significant. There’s public expenditure. There are share issues that have paid for some of these developments elsewhere. There are utility company obligations, and those aren’t within the control of the Welsh Government, but I would hope that we would see much more ambition on a UK-wide level for some of these funding sources to become a reality.

In a short debate that I brought forward last week, I called for us to look much more internationally at some of the examples of success elsewhere. I’d encourage the Welsh Government to look at the Dutch Energiesprong—I’m not sure if I’ve pronounced that correctly, but it’s an example that succeeded in the Netherlands, initially on the basis of social housing retrofitting, which offers residents a guarantee of energy performance, a 10-day delivery timetable, investment being financed by energy cost savings, working together with social housing providers that then provide to their tenants a sort of energy contract, like a mobile phone contract. That is a model that has worked there, and I think we should explore that sort of model in the UK, and specifically in Wales, as we look for all kinds of capital funding for this important policy objective.