Byddaf yn dod at losgi yn ddiweddarach yn fy sylwadau i. Gyda gobaith, fe fyddaf i yn mynd i'r afael â rhywfaint o hynny mewn ychydig.

I also think that there’s an opportunity to use the new taxation powers, as the Cabinet Secretary has just mentioned. I am disappointed with the wording of the Conservative amendment in this context. If you look at the few nations that are performing better than us in recycling plastics—Norway, Sweden, Germany and Finland—each and every one of them has a deposit-return scheme. Therefore, it isn’t true to say that such a scheme somehow undermines recycling. Of course, we have to consider, with doorstep recycling as we have in Wales, that there may be impacts that a deposit-return scheme could have in that context. But, the solution, of course, is a pilot scheme, and that’s what’s been agreed between Plaid Cymru and the Government in the pre-budget agreement, and I look forward to discussing the details of that pilot scheme with the Cabinet Secretary in due time, and to hear more details on such a scheme in the Assembly. I hope that by the end of today we will have at least some understanding of the way forward there.

The Plaid Cymru amendment, by the way, is open ended in terms of what kind of deposit-return scheme we should see in Wales, in terms of the materials to be recycled. It’s important that we identify what’s already being used by some companies. Pret a Manger, Veggie Pret and Asda, even, are starting to talk about how they can use returned plastics. Even major companies such as Coca-Cola have changed their minds on a deposit-return scheme.

The second part of this enables us to look at new taxes, and the possibility of having a tax on polystyrene, as Plaid Cymru has mentioned. Touching upon the point that Mike Hedges has just made: there are materials that can’t be recycled that ultimately will go to landfill or incineration. The solution there, of course, is to try and make better use of that material or to try and remove that material from the food chain specifically, and using taxation measures to achieve that. So, I do think that the possibility of a tax on plastics, which has been mentioned as one of the four possible taxes to be introduced by Government, would be something that we in Plaid Cymru would want to support at the moment, and that is our tax of choice, in order to be entirely clear in the Chamber. The reason for that is because it was in our manifesto, we’ve been working on that, and I made a legislative proposal just some five months ago in this Parliament and had support for this approach, as such a tax would persuade people either to reduce their use of plastic or, by placing a price on non-recyclable plastics, then it persuades companies to invest in compostable materials or alternative materials that can be recycled. In doing that, we would cut down on the plastics in our environment. It is quite horrifying that a recent study by the UK Government department on science found that some 70 per cent of all waste in the sea is now plastic based.

Fe wnes i addo cyffwrdd yn fyr ar losgi, ac rwy’n gwneud hynny i gloi. Mae swyddogaeth i losgi o ran biomas coedwigaeth amaethyddol at ddibenion ynni, ac yn y blaen, ond mae Plaid Cymru yn glir iawn fod llosgi gwastraff ar raddfa fawr yn erbyn egwyddorion economi gylchol mewn gwirionedd. Yn hynny o beth, rwy’n gobeithio bod y Llywodraeth yn cofio datblygiadau fel llosgydd y Barri ac yn gweithio’n wirioneddol yn erbyn cynigion o'r fath, ac o blaid economi gylchol wirioneddol.